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Debating Employee Engagement
Tnaia Lennon from Hay Group, John Smythe from Engage for Change, Karene Drury from Fe 3 and Sean Trainor from uber engagementg debate the concept of employee engagement. Art or science, fact or…Continue
Started Apr 21, 2011
measuring engagement is like weighing souls
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The science is questionable and it is focussed on the wrong things.more here...http://bit.ly/9aCf9bContinue
Tags: surveys, measurement
Started this discussion. Last reply by David Bowles Sep 28, 2010.
UK Government publish Employee Engagement guidelines for business
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BIS engagement guidelines out now …Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Sean Trainor Apr 7, 2010.
From line manager to (on)line manager
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There is a a school of thought that the increased use of social media within organisations will undermine the role of the line manager as a communicator. Will this be the case, or, like the…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Jim Baran Mar 28, 2010.
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For professionals that subscribe to the ideal that engagement should be primarily focussed on stopping the management interventions that disengage employees and result in corporate entropy
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Sean Trainor posted a discussionDebating Employee Engagement
Tnaia Lennon from Hay Group, John Smythe from Engage for Change, Karene Drury from Fe 3 and Sean Trainor from uber engagementg debate the concept of employee engagement. Art or science, fact or fiction?Listen to podcasts here http://ciprinside.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/employee-engagement-debate-downloadable-podcasts/See More
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For professionals that subscribe to the ideal that engagement should be primarily focussed on stopping the management interventions that disengage employees and result in corporate entropy
David Bowles replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"Scott this kind of self reporting wont work. Even the most deadbeat individual would answer a big A) to the first question and probably check all the groups in question 2 as well. Its better not to have people self-rate as far as anything about…"
Scott Messinger replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"Somtimes shorter is better. It can be less confusing. Here's a suggestion for a survey:
1. Do you feel that you go "the extra mile", or perform more than your expected duties, at work?
a. often - almost every day
b. sometimes - once…"
Sean Trainor replied to sarah's discussion how to obtain data about employee engagement for my dissertation?"Hi Sarah
My advice is don't buy any books or go to library - it's all on-line and free.
As well as MacLeod that David references try http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2007/05/09111348/0
a comprehensive summary of all credible…"
Ben Simonton replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"Mark,
Mine is a cookie cutter solution anyone should be able to use effectively. I have not proven it in many different environments/cultures, but then from a managerial standpoint human responses are the same everywhere.
I know that Peter Hunter…"
mark p friedman replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"Here's my summary of this discussion: can you build engagement with surveys? Yes. Can you do it without surveys? Yes. Does either method ensure a predictable outcome? No.
Net, we're dealing with people in cultures, and the solutions need…"
David Bowles replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"Don't worry Ben, all our egos get out of control occasionally (me definitely included), especially when there is a somewhat intense discussion going on. I know you are a good guy with good ideas.
I think its clear that treating people well is…"
Ben Simonton replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"David,
I did not mean to imply that consultants don't know what engagement really is or how to help to achieve it. I am only saying that if management knows how to do it, surveys are of little value.
And I certainly am no judge of Google, but…"
Gary Cattermole replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls"David,
Throughout discussions on this thread it appears that some are completely closed to the idea of a survey, regardless of what it is for. Evidence has been supplied, as requested and even, as you show above one of the worlds largest and most…"
David Bowles replied to Sean Trainor's discussion measuring engagement is like weighing souls""But consultants can teach top management how to do it my way."
Yes Ben we are far too dumb to know how to do it ourselves!! Come on, "my way or the highway"? So consultants only know how to do surveys, and do not understand…"
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- What is your interest or involvement in employee engagement?
- Pragmatic solutions that inspire
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- http://www.uberengagement.com/
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- Where are you located?
- London
Comment Wall (5 comments)
- At 9:42am on January 18, 2010,
Doug Shaw said… - Hi Sean - welcome aboard! Liked your comments about action in the raging discussion on here, more of that please! Look forward to reading more from you soon.
Cheers - Doug
- At 8:17am on January 18, 2010,
David Zinger said… - Sean:
You really scored with engagement on that work.
What were 3 or 4 specific things you did to accomplish that? Have you written about this?
David
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- At 9:31pm on January 17, 2010, Sean Trainor said…
- Thanks for the welcome David.
My most pragmatic solution didn't involve any corporate function responsible for 'engagement' It was when I was a line manager responsible for a manufacturing plant employing 120 people on 24/7 shift pattern. It was over 1 year and resulted in the best production figures, lowest sickness, lowest overtime rates, working with the lowest numbers of staff in the plant's 20 year history. I couldn't comment on the enaggement score because we didn't measure it - now there is a lesson on measurement in itself.
- At 9:06pm on January 17, 2010, David Zinger said…
- Sean:
Welcome to the employee engagement network.
What is your most pragmatic solution to engagement?
I trust you will find engaging people and engaging information here. Let me know if I can be of assistance.
David
Once again, thanks for joining us from CIPR:
- At 8:39pm on January 14, 2010,
Abhishek Mittal said… - Hi Sean, welcome to the network. Feel free to look aorund and explore the various forums where interesting discussions are taking place all the time.
Cheers,
Abhishek
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